if the season finished now who would you sell

BrIan · Joined: 01 Dec 2007 Posts: 13

So if the season finished now who would be here and who would be gone.
after today's game I can see a number of players leaving, some
departures that would shock some toon fans

Shay Given: Been at the club a long time and has been good for us may be
great, but he has made some mistakes and it looks like he has never
recovered from his injury last season. Also he never seems to talk to
the defence, telling them to clear the ball or push out. Which a
goalkeeper should be doing

Stephen Carr: plan and simple he has to go

Jose Enrique: Bought by sam and never played, played under kk a couple
of games but I think he will be leaving

David Rozehnal: Another player who has flattered to deceive. I think going.

Emre: He has to stay, he could be good for us but he needs a holding
player to get the best out of him.

Cacapa: He is so laid back it scary, but saying that he has come in and
made some good tackles when others have froze. but I would say going

Obafemi Martins: we have to keep him, we need speed and he has it. Under
Keegan he would become a good finisher in front of goal.

Michael Owen: We also have to keep him, might not have the pace but will
be there in the box 9 times out of 10.

Damien Duff: Stay, he needs a good left back behind so he can go on the
runs he used to at other clubs

Stephen Harper: Stay, he has to be given his shot in the team. Between
him and given they are too close to call. But I feel harper is better at
some things and given is better at others.

Charles N'Zogbia: He is a jem but not for the first time he (his agent)
has said the player is unhappy for personal reasons. His form has been
off this season because he's played at left back. Sell him I don't know
but I would think if we did we would ask a fair bit for him.

James Milner: Stay, with him and duff we have at least 2 good wingers or
wide men.

Alan Smith: what is his role, sell him

Geremi: sell

Habib Beye: keep, he is a good right back. lets hope we can keep him

Nicholas Butt: starting to slow, may be it's time to let him go. sell

Ameobi: Sell, sell, sell

Abdoulaye Faye: sell

Peter Ramage:keep as back up for now

Steven Taylor: keep, give him a 5 year contract and make him captain
next season

David Edgar: keep as back up

Fraser Forster: Keep as back up

Ben Tozer: back up player
Mark Viduka: Sell, will never win over kk
James Troisi: keep

Kazenga LuaLua: keep

Andrew Carroll: keep

Tim Krul: keep

so what do you guys think, who would you keep or get rid of

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Andrew McGovern · Joined: 09 Oct 2007 Posts: 7

Rozenhal has gone on loan to Lazio and will move permanently in the summer.

Chris F · Joined: 17 Aug 2007 Posts: 906

On Sat, 09 Feb 2008 18:05:42 +0000, BrIan
wrote:

>
>Jose Enrique: Bought by sam and never played, played under kk a couple
>of games but I think he will be leaving
>
part of me hopes he doesn't. he's young, was highly rated in spain, so
needs to be given time to adjust.

>
>Alan Smith: what is his role, sell him
>
couldnt agree more, utter waste of space.

>Abdoulaye Faye: sell

now this one i totally disagree with. why sell Faye? he's probably
been, along with beye, the best player allardyce brought in. he's
certainly the best of the 3 centre halves he bought. i'd say he's
staying, tho maybe as backup depending if anyone was brought in during
the summer.
>
>Peter Ramage:keep as back up for now
>
hmm, it's hard to say, because he's had such a bad injury. the fact of
that coupled with his contract being up in the summer (i think) may
see him move elsewhere, possibly to norwich to team back up with
roeder.

>
>David Edgar: keep as back up
>
>Fraser Forster: Keep as back up
>
>Ben Tozer: back up player
>Mark Viduka: Sell, will never win over kk
>James Troisi: keep
>
>Kazenga LuaLua: keep
>
>Andrew Carroll: keep
>
>Tim Krul: keep
>
>so what do you guys think, who would you keep or get rid of

on the whole, i agree with your assessments, but at the same time i
don't think we'll see a mass exodus in the summer, purely because we
have a thin squad and i can see any players brought in being additions
to that, rather than replacements for players who have left.

that's been our problem for ages now, and i suppose it's been
accentuated by the fact that not many youngsters have been making the
step up in level.

we need a squad of at least 22-25 good first team players imo, and at
the minute we're a good 6 or 7 short of that number.

pantsonfire · Joined: 17 Aug 2007 Posts: 27

"BrIan" wrote in message $9f7$1@energise.enta.net...
> So if the season finished now who would be here and who would be gone.
> after today's game I can see a number of players leaving, some departures
> that would shock some toon fans
>
> Shay Given: Been at the club a long time and has been good for us may be
> great, but he has made some mistakes and it looks like he has never
> recovered from his injury last season. Also he never seems to talk to the
> defence, telling them to clear the ball or push out. Which a goalkeeper
> should be doing

Agreed. A great shot stopper but far too quiet.
I'd be quite happy if we could swap him for Celtic's Boruc.

> Stephen Carr: plan and simple he has to go

At some time he will go but, right back isn't a priority at the moment

> Jose Enrique: Bought by sam and never played, played under kk a couple of
> games but I think he will be leaving

We definately need another left back with Enrique staying as cover for now.

> David Rozehnal: Another player who has flattered to deceive. I think
> going.

He'll be on his bike come the summer for sure.

> Emre: He has to stay, he could be good for us but he needs a holding
> player to get the best out of him.
>
> Cacapa: He is so laid back it scary, but saying that he has come in and
> made some good tackles when others have froze. but I would say going

I'd keep him for cover and the young players to learn from.
We definately need an ugly, hairy arsed big bastard to scare the living
daylights out of the opposition. Someone in the Bobo Balde mould.

> Obafemi Martins: we have to keep him, we need speed and he has it. Under
> Keegan he would become a good finisher in front of goal.

Agreed.

> Michael Owen: We also have to keep him, might not have the pace but will
> be there in the box 9 times out of 10.

Aye

> Damien Duff: Stay, he needs a good left back behind so he can go on the
> runs he used to at other clubs

Agreed.

> Stephen Harper: Stay, he has to be given his shot in the team. Between him
> and given they are too close to call. But I feel harper is better at some
> things and given is better at others.

Agreed.

> Charles N'Zogbia: He is a jem but not for the first time he (his agent)
> has said the player is unhappy for personal reasons. His form has been off
> this season because he's played at left back. Sell him I don't know but I
> would think if we did we would ask a fair bit for him.

Swap him for Berbatov plus some cash. We'd need to replace him with a left
winger though as cover for Duff..

> James Milner: Stay, with him and duff we have at least 2 good wingers or
> wide men.

Agreed. We need cover for him though or even better, replace him with Wright
Philips and use Milner as cover.

> Alan Smith: what is his role, sell him

Use him, Zoggy and about 20m as bait for Berbatov.

> Geremi: sell

Agreed.

> Habib Beye: keep, he is a good right back. lets hope we can keep him

Agreed.

> Nicholas Butt: starting to slow, may be it's time to let him go. sell

Agreed. Need to replace him though especially if Geremi goes too

> Ameobi: Sell, sell, sell

Stay or maybe Spurs could take him too.

> Abdoulaye Faye: sell

I'd keep him for now.

> Peter Ramage:keep as back up for now

Agreed.

> Steven Taylor: keep, give him a 5 year contract and make him captain next
> season

Agreed.

> David Edgar: keep as back up

Not good enough imo, sell.

> Fraser Forster: Keep as back up

Dunno. Never seen him play.

> Ben Tozer: back up player Mark Viduka: Sell, will never win over kk James
> Troisi: keep
> Kazenga LuaLua: keep
>
> Andrew Carroll: keep
>
> Tim Krul: keep

Agreed.
--
Doug
It's a lie and that's the truth.

arby · Joined: 17 Aug 2007 Posts: 26

On 12 Feb, 11:16, "pantsonfire"
wrote:
> "BrIan" wrote in message
>
> $9f7$1@energise.enta.net...
>
> > So if the season finished now who would be here and who would be gone.
> > after today's game I can see a number of players leaving, some departures
> > that would shock some toon fans
>
> > Shay Given: Been at the club a long time and has been good for us may be
> > great, but he has made some mistakes and it looks like he has never
> > recovered from his injury last season. Also he never seems to talk to the
> > defence, telling them to clear the ball or push out. Which a goalkeeper
> > should be doing
>
> Agreed. A great shot stopper but far too quiet.
> I'd be quite happy if we could swap him for Celtic's Boruc.
>
> > Stephen Carr: plan and simple he has to go
>
> At some time he will go but, right back isn't a priority at the moment
>
> > Jose Enrique: Bought by sam and never played, played under kk a couple of
> > games but I think he will be leaving
>
> We definately need another left back with Enrique staying as cover for now.
>
> > David Rozehnal: Another player who has flattered to deceive. I think
> > going.
>
> He'll be on his bike come the summer for sure.
>
> > Emre: He has to stay, he could be good for us but he needs a holding
> > player to get the best out of him.
>
> > Cacapa: He is so laid back it scary, but saying that he has come in and
> > made some good tackles when others have froze. but I would say going
>
> I'd keep him for cover and the young players to learn from.
> We definately need an ugly, hairy arsed big bastard to scare the living
> daylights out of the opposition. Someone in the Bobo Balde mould.
>
> > Obafemi Martins: we have to keep him, we need speed and he has it. Under
> > Keegan he would become a good finisher in front of goal.
>
> Agreed.
>
> > Michael Owen: We also have to keep him, might not have the pace but will
> > be there in the box 9 times out of 10.
>
> Aye
>
> > Damien Duff: Stay, he needs a good left back behind so he can go on the
> > runs he used to at other clubs
>
> Agreed.
>
> > Stephen Harper: Stay, he has to be given his shot in the team. Between him
> > and given they are too close to call. But I feel harper is better at some
> > things and given is better at others.
>
> Agreed.
>
> > Charles N'Zogbia: He is a jem but not for the first time he (his agent)
> > has said the player is unhappy for personal reasons. His form has been off
> > this season because he's played at left back. Sell him I don't know but I
> > would think if we did we would ask a fair bit for him.
>
> Swap him for Berbatov plus some cash. We'd need to replace him with a left
> winger though as cover for Duff..
>
> > James Milner: Stay, with him and duff we have at least 2 good wingers or
> > wide men.
>
> Agreed. We need cover for him though or even better, replace him with Wright
> Philips and use Milner as cover.
>
> > Alan Smith: what is his role, sell him
>
> Use him, Zoggy and about 20m as bait for Berbatov.
>
> > Geremi: sell
>
> Agreed.
>
> > Habib Beye: keep, he is a good right back. lets hope we can keep him
>
> Agreed.
>
> > Nicholas Butt: starting to slow, may be it's time to let him go. sell
>
> Agreed. Need to replace him though especially if Geremi goes too
>
> > Ameobi: Sell, sell, sell
>
> Stay or maybe Spurs could take him too.
>
> > Abdoulaye Faye: sell
>
> I'd keep him for now.
>
> > Peter Ramage:keep as back up for now
>
> Agreed.
>
> > Steven Taylor: keep, give him a 5 year contract and make him captain next
> > season
>
> Agreed.
>
> > David Edgar: keep as back up
>
> Not good enough imo, sell.
>
> > Fraser Forster: Keep as back up
>
> Dunno. Never seen him play.
>
> > Ben Tozer: back up player Mark Viduka: Sell, will never win over kk James
> > Troisi: keep
> > Kazenga LuaLua: keep
>
> > Andrew Carroll: keep
>
> > Tim Krul: keep
>
> Agreed.
> --
> Doug
> It's a lie and that's the truth.

why do you think Spurs would want to take our rejects? That was about
6-7 years ago when the likes of Les Fedinand (and not to mention
Ginola) made their last transfers to Spurs. I hate to mention Ginoa
becasue of that scotish c%^nt who sold him to Spurs and he went on to
win the player of the year award for them. What a tosser! Right now,
they are way ahead of us interms of squad quality. If we have to flog
players, they wont be going to the likes of spurs, maybe sunderland,
wigan or Norwich but not teams above us in the league.

pantsonfire · Joined: 17 Aug 2007 Posts: 27

"arby" wrote in message @s12g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
> On 12 Feb, 11:16, "pantsonfire"
> wrote:
> why do you think Spurs would want to take our rejects? That was about
> 6-7 years ago when the likes of Les Fedinand (and not to mention
> Ginola) made their last transfers to Spurs. I hate to mention Ginoa
> becasue of that scotish c%^nt who sold him to Spurs and he went on to
> win the player of the year award for them. What a tosser! Right now,
> they are way ahead of us interms of squad quality. If we have to flog
> players, they wont be going to the likes of spurs, maybe sunderland,
> wigan or Norwich but not teams above us in the league.

I was playing fantasy football. It'll be interesting to see which London
club Zoggy goes to in the summer though.
--
Doug
It's a lie and that's the truth.

Chris F · Joined: 17 Aug 2007 Posts: 906

On Wed, 13 Feb 2008 11:55:37 -0000, "pantsonfire"
wrote:

>
>"arby" wrote in message
>@s12g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
>> On 12 Feb, 11:16, "pantsonfire"
>> wrote:
>> why do you think Spurs would want to take our rejects? That was about
>> 6-7 years ago when the likes of Les Fedinand (and not to mention
>> Ginola) made their last transfers to Spurs. I hate to mention Ginoa
>> becasue of that scotish c%^nt who sold him to Spurs and he went on to
>> win the player of the year award for them. What a tosser! Right now,
>> they are way ahead of us interms of squad quality. If we have to flog
>> players, they wont be going to the likes of spurs, maybe sunderland,
>> wigan or Norwich but not teams above us in the league.
>
>I was playing fantasy football. It'll be interesting to see which London
>club Zoggy goes to in the summer though.

none of them, is my wager.

all coming from his agent, and that man is well known to be a complete
and utter cock.

"Eyan The Mackem \ · Joined: 17 Aug 2007 Posts: 385

"BrIan" wrote in message $9f7$1@energise.enta.net...
> so what do you guys think, who would you keep or get rid of

Get rid ov the joke that is Keegone

arby · Joined: 17 Aug 2007 Posts: 26

On 14 Feb, 01:35, Chris F wrote:
> On Wed, 13 Feb 2008 11:55:37 -0000, "pantsonfire"
>
>
>
> wrote:
>
> >"arby" wrote in message
> >@s12g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
> >> On 12 Feb, 11:16, "pantsonfire"
> >> wrote:
> >> why do you think Spurs would want to take our rejects? That was about
> >> 6-7 years ago when the likes of Les Fedinand (and not to mention
> >> Ginola) made their last transfers to Spurs. I hate to mention Ginoa
> >> becasue of that scotish c%^nt who sold him to Spurs and he went on to
> >> win the player of the year award for them. What a tosser! Right now,
> >> they are way ahead of us interms of squad quality. If we have to flog
> >> players, they wont be going to the likes of spurs, maybe sunderland,
> >> wigan or Norwich but not teams above us in the league.
>
> >I was playing fantasy football. It'll be interesting to see which London
> >club Zoggy goes to in the summer though.
>
> none of them, is my wager.
>
> all coming from his agent, and that man is well known to be a complete
> and utter cock.

his mum and sister live in London , hence his wish to move down south.

I really hope KK manges to keep him for at least another season. But
if they have to sell then it shouldnt be to a club like Arse or Spurs.
Do a Fergie and refuse to sell to a rival team.

Paul · Joined: 17 Aug 2007 Posts: 296

arby wrote in
a9e9-cc6ca9ca1696@s12g2000prg.googlegroups.com:

> I really hope KK manges to keep him for at least another
> season. But if they have to sell then it shouldnt be to
> a club like Arse or Spurs. Do a Fergie and refuse to
> sell to a rival team.

Thirty-five points behind Arsenal with twelve games yet to
play and you seriously consider them to be a rival?? :-]]]

Paul

>

arby · Joined: 17 Aug 2007 Posts: 26

On 14 Feb, 16:34, Paul wrote:
> arby wrote in
> a9e9-cc6ca9ca1...@s12g2000prg.googlegroups.com:
>
> > I really hope KK manges to keep him for at least another
> > season. But if they have to sell then it shouldnt be to
> > a club like Arse or Spurs. Do a Fergie and refuse to
> > sell to a rival team.
>
> Thirty-five points behind Arsenal with twelve games yet to
> play and you seriously consider them to be a rival?? :-]]]
>
> Paul
>
>

thanks for reminding me of the points gap Paul- not!

By rival i meant a premier league team. Sell him to a club in France,
Spain or Italy.
Any club who stays in CL for a few years in a row, has the finacial
power to buy top players- which is why Arse are poaching all the best
players from Spain and africa.

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