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b



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 6:27 pm    Post subject: There but for the grace of God Reply with quote

http://shorterlink.co.uk/13829

can anyone identify the player making the 'tackle'?
ho hum.

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Le Dieu



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 6:29 pm    Post subject: Re: There but for the grace of God Reply with quote

"b" wrote in message $0$4507$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com...
> http://shorterlink.co.uk/13829
>
> can anyone identify the player making the 'tackle'?
> ho hum.


No, nor the team.

It certainly can't be arse as they're always only ever the victims of
dangerous tackles.

A. Dieu.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 6:37 pm    Post subject: Re: There but for the grace of God Reply with quote

"b" wrote in message $0$4507$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com...
> http://shorterlink.co.uk/13829
>
> can anyone identify the player making the 'tackle'?
> ho hum.

There is a definitely an element of disrespectfulness about the player
wearing the red shirt. Only he knows if it is intentional or not.
--
Where there is discord, may we bring harmony.
Where there is error, may we bring truth.
Where there is doubt, may we bring faith.
And where there is despair, may we bring hope.
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Diablos Rojos



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 6:42 pm    Post subject: Re: There but for the grace of God Reply with quote

"b" wrote in message $0$4507$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com...
> http://shorterlink.co.uk/13829
>
> can anyone identify the player making the 'tackle'?
> ho hum.
>

"It had to happen eventually, Wenger was right. The media in the form
of ex-pros cannot stand the way the English game is moving towards
technique. They want the old rough and tumble. They make the
unacceptable, acceptable.
English football will NEVER EVER come close to the game played on the
continent when brutalisation is still so much a part of our game."

Ian the hypocrite 24/02/08
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 5:38 pm    Post subject: Re: There but for the grace of God Reply with quote

"b" wrote in message $0$4507$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com...
> http://shorterlink.co.uk/13829
>
> can anyone identify the player making the 'tackle'?
> ho hum.
Eduardo the victim. Wenger didn't see it
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 1:35 am    Post subject: Re: There but for the grace of God Reply with quote

"Diablos Rojos" wrote in message @mid.individual.net...
>
> "b" wrote in message
> $0$4507$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com...
>> http://shorterlink.co.uk/13829
>>
>> can anyone identify the player making the 'tackle'?
>> ho hum.
>>
>
> "It had to happen eventually, Wenger was right. The media in the form
> of ex-pros cannot stand the way the English game is moving towards
> technique. They want the old rough and tumble. They make the
> unacceptable, acceptable.
> English football will NEVER EVER come close to the game played on the
> continent when brutalisation is still so much a part of our game."
>
> Ian the hypocrite 24/02/08
>

It's not hypocrisy, I think he genuinely believes that no team is more
skillful than Arsenal and if any team outplays Arsenal, they would never
resort to kicking them off the park. Only other teams do that sort of nasty
stuff. He's delusional on this issue, not a hypocrite.
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Cluck Kent.



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 2:07 am    Post subject: Re: There but for the grace of God Reply with quote

"b" wrote in $0$4507$c3e8da3
@news.astraweb.com:

> http://shorterlink.co.uk/13829
>
> can anyone identify the player making the 'tackle'?
> ho hum.
>
>
>

Whoever it is he should never play football again.

LMFCO
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Art Weingardner



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 2:08 am    Post subject: Re: There but for the grace of God Reply with quote

On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 13:27:06 -0000, "b"
wrote:
>http://shorterlink.co.uk/13829
>
>can anyone identify the player making the 'tackle'?
>ho hum.

all the players slide tackle incorrectly in the current game - leg
straight out with the studs up. watch a game from the 70's and you'll
see some correct slide tackling. they've tried to protect the players
by supposedly banning slide tackles from behind but now they let the
players get away with sliding straight in from the front with the
studs up. just like they've done a pretty good job stopping the
professional foul by issuing yellows and red but now shirt pulling is
rampant and it could easily be stopped by punishing the offenders
after the game by watching the replays.
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Le Dieu



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 3:03 pm    Post subject: Re: There but for the grace of God Reply with quote

"Baldoni"

>
> Horseshit it is. Point scoring of the highest order. The whole of
> Britain had the Munich disaster thrust upon them and the Mancs had the
> chance to revel in their victim status while the merchandise was flooged.


Merchandise flooging bastards.

>
> Mancs are only happy when they are unhappy and use incedents that are
> totally unrelated to shift the emphasis onto something that happened the
> week before.
>
> Gallas and Flamini quite rightly put an end to Nani's showboating. Anyone
> who plays the game will tell you it isn't done. They did not go in with
> their studs in the air like Taylor did to Eduardo.


Um, yes they did.

Were these challenges reckless or not.

Questions don't come much simpler.

A. Dieu.
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bungle



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 5:29 pm    Post subject: Re: There but for the grace of God Reply with quote

>
> Mancs are only happy when they are unhappy and use incedents that are
> totally unrelated to shift the emphasis onto something that happened the
> week before.
>
> Gallas and Flamini quite rightly put an end to Nani's showboating.
> Anyone who plays the game will tell you it isn't done. They did not go
> in with their studs in the air like Taylor did to Eduardo.
>
> Points scoring of the worst kind by plastic United supporters.
>


Question for you showboating is something you hate as you feel its
rubbing the noses of the opposition into their own failure. What did you
feel about what Keown's reaction to Van Nistelrooys last minute Pen
Miss? Was he not rubbing noses in failure? Would Van Nistelrooy been
justified in putting a 'reducer' on Keown? Did any Arsenal fan
disapprove of it at the time?

Just want to check your views are not blinded by any kind of bias.
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Baldoni



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 5:44 pm    Post subject: Re: There but for the grace of God Reply with quote

bungle wrote on 26/02/2008 :
>>
>> Mancs are only happy when they are unhappy and use incedents that are
>> totally unrelated to shift the emphasis onto something that happened the
>> week before.
>>
>> Gallas and Flamini quite rightly put an end to Nani's showboating. Anyone
>> who plays the game will tell you it isn't done. They did not go in with
>> their studs in the air like Taylor did to Eduardo.
>>
>> Points scoring of the worst kind by plastic United supporters.
>>
>
>
> Question for you showboating is something you hate as you feel its rubbing
> the noses of the opposition into their own failure. What did you feel about
> what Keown's reaction to Van Nistelrooys last minute Pen Miss? Was he not
> rubbing noses in failure? Would Van Nistelrooy been justified in putting a
> 'reducer' on Keown? Did any Arsenal fan disapprove of it at the time?
>
> Just want to check your views are not blinded by any kind of bias.

In what way was RVN a failure ?

He missed a penalty against an excellent team who would go on to great
glory. I will not condone Keown's behaviour and I will also not
condone the blatent cheating by RVN earlier which conned the ref and
led to Patrick Vieira getting sent off.

That is what led to the agression. Utd are not whiter than white so
try to understand this.

--
Count Baldoni
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bungle



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 5:45 pm    Post subject: Re: There but for the grace of God Reply with quote

Baldoni wrote:
> bungle wrote on 26/02/2008 :
>>>
>>> Mancs are only happy when they are unhappy and use incedents that are
>>> totally unrelated to shift the emphasis onto something that happened
>>> the week before.
>>>
>>> Gallas and Flamini quite rightly put an end to Nani's showboating.
>>> Anyone who plays the game will tell you it isn't done. They did not
>>> go in with their studs in the air like Taylor did to Eduardo.
>>>
>>> Points scoring of the worst kind by plastic United supporters.
>>>
>>
>>
>> Question for you showboating is something you hate as you feel its
>> rubbing the noses of the opposition into their own failure. What did
>> you feel about what Keown's reaction to Van Nistelrooys last minute
>> Pen Miss? Was he not rubbing noses in failure? Would Van Nistelrooy
>> been justified in putting a 'reducer' on Keown? Did any Arsenal fan
>> disapprove of it at the time?
>>
>> Just want to check your views are not blinded by any kind of bias.
>
> In what way was RVN a failure ?
>
> He missed a penalty against an excellent team who would go on to great
> glory. I will not condone Keown's behaviour and I will also not condone
> the blatent cheating by RVN earlier which conned the ref and led to
> Patrick Vieira getting sent off.
>
> That is what led to the agression. Utd are not whiter than white so try
> to understand this.
>

No one said Utd were whiter than white but did keown deserve a reducer?
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 6:02 pm    Post subject: Re: There but for the grace of God Reply with quote

bungle explained :
> Baldoni wrote:
>> bungle wrote on 26/02/2008 :
>>>>
>>>> Mancs are only happy when they are unhappy and use incedents that are
>>>> totally unrelated to shift the emphasis onto something that happened the
>>>> week before.
>>>>
>>>> Gallas and Flamini quite rightly put an end to Nani's showboating.
>>>> Anyone who plays the game will tell you it isn't done. They did not go
>>>> in with their studs in the air like Taylor did to Eduardo.
>>>>
>>>> Points scoring of the worst kind by plastic United supporters.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Question for you showboating is something you hate as you feel its rubbing
>>> the noses of the opposition into their own failure. What did you feel
>>> about what Keown's reaction to Van Nistelrooys last minute Pen Miss? Was
>>> he not rubbing noses in failure? Would Van Nistelrooy been justified in
>>> putting a 'reducer' on Keown? Did any Arsenal fan disapprove of it at the
>>> time?
>>>
>>> Just want to check your views are not blinded by any kind of bias.
>>
>> In what way was RVN a failure ?
>>
>> He missed a penalty against an excellent team who would go on to great
>> glory. I will not condone Keown's behaviour and I will also not condone
>> the blatent cheating by RVN earlier which conned the ref and led to Patrick
>> Vieira getting sent off.
>>
>> That is what led to the agression. Utd are not whiter than white so try to
>> understand this.
>>
>
> No one said Utd were whiter than white but did keown deserve a reducer?

IIRC Keown was diciplined by the FA as were Lehmann, Lauren and was it
Parlour or Cole.

I can only accept the punishment of the FA. Did Keown deserve it then
I would have to say yes. He went against the rules of the game.

--
Count Baldoni
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Diablos Rojos



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 6:21 pm    Post subject: Re: There but for the grace of God Reply with quote

"Baldoni" wrote in message @gmail.com...
> bungle explained :
>> Baldoni wrote:
>>> bungle wrote on 26/02/2008 :
>>>>>
>>>>> Mancs are only happy when they are unhappy and use incedents that are
>>>>> totally unrelated to shift the emphasis onto something that happened
>>>>> the week before.
>>>>>
>>>>> Gallas and Flamini quite rightly put an end to Nani's showboating.
>>>>> Anyone who plays the game will tell you it isn't done. They did not
>>>>> go in with their studs in the air like Taylor did to Eduardo.
>>>>>
>>>>> Points scoring of the worst kind by plastic United supporters.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Question for you showboating is something you hate as you feel its
>>>> rubbing the noses of the opposition into their own failure. What did
>>>> you feel about what Keown's reaction to Van Nistelrooys last minute Pen
>>>> Miss? Was he not rubbing noses in failure? Would Van Nistelrooy been
>>>> justified in putting a 'reducer' on Keown? Did any Arsenal fan
>>>> disapprove of it at the time?
>>>>
>>>> Just want to check your views are not blinded by any kind of bias.
>>>
>>> In what way was RVN a failure ?
>>>
>>> He missed a penalty against an excellent team who would go on to great
>>> glory. I will not condone Keown's behaviour and I will also not condone
>>> the blatent cheating by RVN earlier which conned the ref and led to
>>> Patrick Vieira getting sent off.
>>>
>>> That is what led to the agression. Utd are not whiter than white so try
>>> to understand this.
>>>
>>
>> No one said Utd were whiter than white but did keown deserve a reducer?
>
> IIRC Keown was diciplined by the FA as were Lehmann, Lauren and was it
> Parlour or Cole.
>
> I can only accept the punishment of the FA. Did Keown deserve it then I
> would have to say yes. He went against the rules of the game.
>
> --
> Count Baldoni
>
>

Thats not what he is asking and well you know.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 6:28 pm    Post subject: Re: There but for the grace of God Reply with quote

Diablos Rojos laid this down on his screen :
> "Baldoni" wrote in message
> @gmail.com...
>> bungle explained :
>>> Baldoni wrote:
>>>> bungle wrote on 26/02/2008 :
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mancs are only happy when they are unhappy and use incedents that are
>>>>>> totally unrelated to shift the emphasis onto something that happened
>>>>>> the week before.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Gallas and Flamini quite rightly put an end to Nani's showboating.
>>>>>> Anyone who plays the game will tell you it isn't done. They did not go
>>>>>> in with their studs in the air like Taylor did to Eduardo.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Points scoring of the worst kind by plastic United supporters.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Question for you showboating is something you hate as you feel its
>>>>> rubbing the noses of the opposition into their own failure. What did you
>>>>> feel about what Keown's reaction to Van Nistelrooys last minute Pen
>>>>> Miss? Was he not rubbing noses in failure? Would Van Nistelrooy been
>>>>> justified in putting a 'reducer' on Keown? Did any Arsenal fan
>>>>> disapprove of it at the time?
>>>>>
>>>>> Just want to check your views are not blinded by any kind of bias.
>>>>
>>>> In what way was RVN a failure ?
>>>>
>>>> He missed a penalty against an excellent team who would go on to great
>>>> glory. I will not condone Keown's behaviour and I will also not condone
>>>> the blatent cheating by RVN earlier which conned the ref and led to
>>>> Patrick Vieira getting sent off.
>>>>
>>>> That is what led to the agression. Utd are not whiter than white so try
>>>> to understand this.
>>>>
>>>
>>> No one said Utd were whiter than white but did keown deserve a reducer?
>>
>> IIRC Keown was diciplined by the FA as were Lehmann, Lauren and was it
>> Parlour or Cole.
>>
>> I can only accept the punishment of the FA. Did Keown deserve it then I
>> would have to say yes. He went against the rules of the game.
>>
>> -- Count Baldoni
>>
>>
>
> Thats not what he is asking and well you know.

Of course Keown deserved a suspension. He broke the rules. He broke
the law of this country as well as it happens.

Many players have during the course of their careers.

--
Count Baldoni

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