Oh Eck

Psychobudgie · Joined: 17 Aug 2007 Posts: 635

Good luck to him.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/7114028.stm

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Jonbhoy · Joined: 17 Aug 2007 Posts: 228

"Psychobudgie" wrote in message @mid.individual.net...
> Good luck to him.
>
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/7114028.stm
>
> --
> Regards,
>
> Psychobudgie
>
> Very deep. You should send that into Reader's Digest, they've got a page
> for people like you. - Douglas Adams

Cant help but feel very disappointed over this.Does feel like he used the
vacant scotland job as a stepping stone knowing WS really had implemented
the improvements.Sadly managing the international team doesnt seem much of
an honour these days!

JB

Psychobudgie · Joined: 17 Aug 2007 Posts: 635

Jonbhoy wrote:
> "Psychobudgie" wrote in message
> @mid.individual.net...
>> Good luck to him.
>>
>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/7114028.stm
>>
>> --
>> Regards,
>>
>> Psychobudgie
>>
>> Very deep. You should send that into Reader's Digest, they've got a page
>> for people like you. - Douglas Adams
>
> Cant help but feel very disappointed over this.Does feel like he used the
> vacant scotland job as a stepping stone knowing WS really had implemented
> the improvements.Sadly managing the international team doesnt seem much of
> an honour these days!
>
> JB
>
>

Or payday.

At the time though I didn't notice anyone else clambering to be
appointed to the post.

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Stevio · Joined: 17 Aug 2007 Posts: 751

"Psychobudgie" wrote
> Good luck to him.
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/7114028.stm

Say what you like about Andy Roxburgh, Craig Brown and even Berti Vogts, but
at least they were committed to the job. Walter and Big Eck have treated the
job as a stepping stone. At least have the courtesy to stay for the full
term of a qualifying campaign, which neither of them did.

I read recently that the average tenure for a manager is only a couple of
years anyway. What exactly is he going to be able to achieve at Birmingham?
The best they can hope for is qualify for the UEFA Cup and a good cup run.

Psychobudgie · Joined: 17 Aug 2007 Posts: 635

Stevio wrote:
> "Psychobudgie" wrote
>> Good luck to him.
>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/7114028.stm
>
> Say what you like about Andy Roxburgh, Craig Brown and even Berti Vogts, but
> at least they were committed to the job. Walter and Big Eck have treated the
> job as a stepping stone. At least have the courtesy to stay for the full
> term of a qualifying campaign, which neither of them did.
>
> I read recently that the average tenure for a manager is only a couple of
> years anyway. What exactly is he going to be able to achieve at Birmingham?
> The best they can hope for is qualify for the UEFA Cup and a good cup run.
>
>

They stayed as nobody else was interested in hiring them.

I'm sure that the queue outside the SFA will be chocker with patriotic
Scottish managers wanting the job.
I suspect Moyes and Strachan will be right at the front of the queue.

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Commander Gideon · Joined: 17 Aug 2007 Posts: 59

>
> They stayed as nobody else was interested in hiring them.
>
> I'm sure that the queue outside the SFA will be chocker with patriotic
> Scottish managers wanting the job.
> I suspect Moyes and Strachan will be right at the front of the queue.

I bet it will be Souness who gets the job!

Bryan · Joined: 17 Aug 2007 Posts: 10

"Commander Gideon" wrote in message $ltk$1@registered.motzarella.org...
> >
>> They stayed as nobody else was interested in hiring them.
>>
>> I'm sure that the queue outside the SFA will be chocker with patriotic
>> Scottish managers wanting the job.
>> I suspect Moyes and Strachan will be right at the front of the queue.
>
> I bet it will be Souness who gets the job!
>

he seems like he is well qualified for the Scotland job and will have the
required amount of passion.. I was putting my money on him as well.

Jonbhoy · Joined: 17 Aug 2007 Posts: 228

"Psychobudgie" wrote in message @mid.individual.net...
> Jonbhoy wrote:
>> "Psychobudgie" wrote in message
>> @mid.individual.net...
>>> Good luck to him.
>>>
>>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/7114028.stm
>>>
>>> --
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Psychobudgie
>>>
>>> Very deep. You should send that into Reader's Digest, they've got a page
>>> for people like you. - Douglas Adams
>>
>> Cant help but feel very disappointed over this.Does feel like he used the
>> vacant scotland job as a stepping stone knowing WS really had implemented
>> the improvements.Sadly managing the international team doesnt seem much
>> of an honour these days!
>>
>> JB
>
> Or payday.
>
> At the time though I didn't notice anyone else clambering to be appointed
> to the post.

Maybe because he was the only prominent Scot out of a job at the time!

JB

Stevio · Joined: 17 Aug 2007 Posts: 751

"Bryan" wrote
>> I bet it will be Souness who gets the job!
>
> he seems like he is well qualified for the Scotland job and will have the
> required amount of passion.. I was putting my money on him as well.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Souness someone who used to pull out of
Scotland squads when he did not actually have an injury? I seem to remember
hearing that in the past, but I could be wrong.

liam · Joined: 17 Aug 2007 Posts: 229

"Psychobudgie" wrote
>
> Good luck to him.
>
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/7114028.stm

I've not hard feelings towards Eck. He did all he could do for Scotland.
Really looking forward to the Birmingham derby. Will be interesting to see
how he shapes up against MON in the Premier League. I wonder if
anti-football will save him from relegation to the Championship?

Bryan · Joined: 17 Aug 2007 Posts: 10

"Stevio" wrote in message $T8.49363@newsfe5-win.ntli.net...
> "Bryan" wrote
>>> I bet it will be Souness who gets the job!
>>
>> he seems like he is well qualified for the Scotland job and will have the
>> required amount of passion.. I was putting my money on him as well.
>
> Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Souness someone who used to pull out of
> Scotland squads when he did not actually have an injury? I seem to
> remember hearing that in the past, but I could be wrong.
>

possibly but he has 54 caps for Scotland which is 17= and one behind Denis
Law. He had a very successful club career in fact him and Kenny D were
probably the most successful players at club level in the history of
"Scottish" football bearing in mind that European cups are harder to win
than League titles..

Bryan · Joined: 17 Aug 2007 Posts: 10

"Jim Mason" wrote in message @news.individual.net...
> In article ,
> bhendersonNOSPAM@freenet.co.uk says...
>>
>> "Stevio" wrote in message
>> $T8.49363@newsfe5-win.ntli.net...
>> > "Bryan" wrote
>> >>> I bet it will be Souness who gets the job!
>> >>
>> >> he seems like he is well qualified for the Scotland job and will have
>> >> the
>> >> required amount of passion.. I was putting my money on him as well.
>> >
>> > Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Souness someone who used to pull out
>> > of
>> > Scotland squads when he did not actually have an injury? I seem to
>> > remember hearing that in the past, but I could be wrong.
>> >
>>
>> possibly but he has 54 caps for Scotland which is 17= and one behind
>> Denis
>> Law. He had a very successful club career in fact him and Kenny D were
>> probably the most successful players at club level in the history of
>> "Scottish" football bearing in mind that European cups are harder to win
>> than League titles..
>
> But much more importantly he has proved to be an abysmal manager - which
> is why
> he is currently not in a managerial position.
>

he did quite well at Rangers. Gary MacAllister has no managerial experience
worth talking about and he is a candidate!

Jonbhoy · Joined: 17 Aug 2007 Posts: 228

"Bryan" wrote in message $qg1.176@newsfet10.ams...
>
> "Jim Mason" wrote in message
> @news.individual.net...
>> In article ,
>> bhendersonNOSPAM@freenet.co.uk says...
>>>
>>> "Stevio" wrote in message
>>> $T8.49363@newsfe5-win.ntli.net...
>>> > "Bryan" wrote
>>> >>> I bet it will be Souness who gets the job!
>>> >>
>>> >> he seems like he is well qualified for the Scotland job and will have
>>> >> the
>>> >> required amount of passion.. I was putting my money on him as well.
>>> >
>>> > Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Souness someone who used to pull
>>> > out of
>>> > Scotland squads when he did not actually have an injury? I seem to
>>> > remember hearing that in the past, but I could be wrong.
>>> >
>>>
>>> possibly but he has 54 caps for Scotland which is 17= and one behind
>>> Denis
>>> Law. He had a very successful club career in fact him and Kenny D were
>>> probably the most successful players at club level in the history of
>>> "Scottish" football bearing in mind that European cups are harder to win
>>> than League titles..
>>
>> But much more importantly he has proved to be an abysmal manager - which
>> is why
>> he is currently not in a managerial position.
>>
>
> he did quite well at Rangers. Gary MacAllister has no managerial
> experience worth talking about and he is a candidate!
Well if he is an SFA candidate then the whole of the SFA should resign!

JB

Bryan · Joined: 17 Aug 2007 Posts: 10

"Jim Mason" wrote in message @news.individual.net...
> In article ,
> bhendersonNOSPAM@freenet.co.uk
> says...
>>
>> "Jim Mason" wrote in message
>> @news.individual.net...
>> > In article ,
>> > bhendersonNOSPAM@freenet.co.uk says...
>> >>
>> >> "Stevio" wrote in message
>> >> $T8.49363@newsfe5-win.ntli.net...
>> >> > "Bryan" wrote
>> >> >>> I bet it will be Souness who gets the job!
>> >> >>
>> >> >> he seems like he is well qualified for the Scotland job and will
>> >> >> have
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> required amount of passion.. I was putting my money on him as well.
>> >> >
>> >> > Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Souness someone who used to pull
>> >> > out
>> >> > of
>> >> > Scotland squads when he did not actually have an injury? I seem to
>> >> > remember hearing that in the past, but I could be wrong.
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> possibly but he has 54 caps for Scotland which is 17= and one behind
>> >> Denis
>> >> Law. He had a very successful club career in fact him and Kenny D were
>> >> probably the most successful players at club level in the history of
>> >> "Scottish" football bearing in mind that European cups are harder to
>> >> win
>> >> than League titles..
>> >
>> > But much more importantly he has proved to be an abysmal manager -
>> > which
>> > is why
>> > he is currently not in a managerial position.
>> >
>>
>> he did quite well at Rangers. Gary MacAllister has no managerial
>> experience
>> worth talking about and he is a candidate!
>
> Thick Jim could have done a good job with the money Souness had thrown at
> him
> at Ibrox. Souness was very quickly found out everywhere else he managed
> and is
> the reason he is now confined to punditry.
>

point taken but that is where an international manager is different. Richard
Gough is backing GS today on the radio. How about the great Kenny for
manager? The fact is no manager will succeed at the very top for long these
days without quite a bit of money. The fact that a manager didn't succeed at
Newcastle in particular shouldn't be too surprising. There comes a time when
it is more than the manager that needs to go!

Stevio · Joined: 17 Aug 2007 Posts: 751

"Jim Mason" wrote in message
> Agreed about Newcastle - but when you fail at Liverpool, Benfica,
> Southampton,
> Galatasaray and eventually get chased from Blackburn Rovers after an
> initial

I am not sure what you class as failure. Look at his record (in management)
of honours won. Winning trophies at 4 different clubs is not too bad,
although he would not be my first choice for Scotland manager.

Rangers
Winners
1986-87 Scottish League Cup
1986-87 Scottish Premier League (Level 1)
1987-88 Scottish League Cup
1988-89 Scottish League Cup
1988-89 Scottish Premier League (Level 1)
1989-90 Scottish Premier League (Level 1)
1990-91 Scottish League Cup
1990-91 Scottish Premier League (Level 1) (Left with 5 games to go)

Liverpool
Winners
1991-92 FA Cup

Galatasaray
Winners
1995-96 Turkish Cup
1996-97 Turkish Super Cup

Blackburn Rovers
Winners
2001-02 League Cup

Rafa says "JUMP!!" an they all jump PMSL!!! -- + His Holiness Pope Pompous XVIII "Dear baby Jesus I'm tired of all the fighting please help Me to stop swearing, forgive Mine enemies, love My neighbour an bless those who persecute Me. Amen"

Our problems lie with.......... .........the midfield. As in we don't have one. Robert - A complete waste of skin Viana - Hasn't been given his chance to shine as yet. Dyer - Will run and make a nuisance of himself all day like a naughty jack russel Speed -

2-0 you city cunts comedy defending at its best. lol. :)

arsenal v/s newcastle the magpies have been put to sleep by a dazzlin display of the best first touchplay in the world

Benitez has to go Rafa out, Mourinho in. end of.