Dundee get refused

Mad Max · Joined: 17 Aug 2007 Posts: 133

Following further deliberations and dialogue with the players, the
Club today requested permission to postpone the game against Hearts.
However, we have been advised that the game must go ahead as
scheduled.

http://www.dundeeunitedfc.co.uk/index.asp?tm=2&nid=2782&cd=2008

think that say what all know to be true.

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dü the hüsker · Joined: 17 Aug 2007 Posts: 563

"Mad Max" wrote in message @x69g2000hsx.googlegroups.com...
> Following further deliberations and dialogue with the players, the
> Club today requested permission to postpone the game against Hearts.
> However, we have been advised that the game must go ahead as
> scheduled.
>
> http://www.dundeeunitedfc.co.uk/index.asp?tm=2&nid=2782&cd=2008
>
> think that say what all know to be true.

If Walter Smith thinks a game shouldn't go ahead, then it doesn't? Other
clubs don't get treated as fairly? Hearts are bigger bampots than Rangers?
The SPL have made an arse of the whole thing and should have been pro-active
and automatically cancelled the SPL card?

Voice Of Reason · Joined: 31 Dec 2007 Posts: 8

"dü the hüsker" wrote in message $cJ3.68967@fe2.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
>
> "Mad Max" wrote in message
> @x69g2000hsx.googlegroups.com...
>> Following further deliberations and dialogue with the players, the
>> Club today requested permission to postpone the game against Hearts.
>> However, we have been advised that the game must go ahead as
>> scheduled.
>>
>> http://www.dundeeunitedfc.co.uk/index.asp?tm=2&nid=2782&cd=2008
>>
>> think that say what all know to be true.
>
> If Walter Smith thinks a game shouldn't go ahead, then it doesn't? Other
> clubs don't get treated as fairly? Hearts are bigger bampots than
> Rangers? The SPL have made an arse of the whole thing and should have been
> pro-active and automatically cancelled the SPL card?
>

Celtic bottled it ?

V.O.R.

dü the hüsker · Joined: 17 Aug 2007 Posts: 563

"Voice Of Reason" wrote in message @corp.supernews.com...
>
> "dü the hüsker" wrote in message
> $cJ3.68967@fe2.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
>>
>> "Mad Max" wrote in message
>> @x69g2000hsx.googlegroups.com...
>>> Following further deliberations and dialogue with the players, the
>>> Club today requested permission to postpone the game against Hearts.
>>> However, we have been advised that the game must go ahead as
>>> scheduled.
>>>
>>> http://www.dundeeunitedfc.co.uk/index.asp?tm=2&nid=2782&cd=2008
>>>
>>> think that say what all know to be true.
>>
>> If Walter Smith thinks a game shouldn't go ahead, then it doesn't? Other
>> clubs don't get treated as fairly? Hearts are bigger bampots than
>> Rangers? The SPL have made an arse of the whole thing and should have
>> been pro-active and automatically cancelled the SPL card?
>>
>
> Celtic bottled it ?
>
> V.O.R.

When the Celtic captain is a very close friend of the O'Donnell family, Scot
McDonald played with him for a few years, along with many of the backroom
staff remaining close friends with Phil then perhaps you're right. Maybe a
game of football wasn't foremost in their minds. I think the whole card
should have been scrapped. I'm sure it would have affected all the players
in the SPL and gave them a lot to think about.

ZB · Joined: 17 Aug 2007 Posts: 3451

"Voice Of Reason" wrote in message @corp.supernews.com...
>
> "dü the hüsker" wrote in message
> $cJ3.68967@fe2.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
>>
>> "Mad Max" wrote in message
>> @x69g2000hsx.googlegroups.com...
>>> Following further deliberations and dialogue with the players, the
>>> Club today requested permission to postpone the game against Hearts.
>>> However, we have been advised that the game must go ahead as
>>> scheduled.
>>>
>>> http://www.dundeeunitedfc.co.uk/index.asp?tm=2&nid=2782&cd=2008
>>>
>>> think that say what all know to be true.
>>
>> If Walter Smith thinks a game shouldn't go ahead, then it doesn't? Other
>> clubs don't get treated as fairly? Hearts are bigger bampots than
>> Rangers? The SPL have made an arse of the whole thing and should have
>> been pro-active and automatically cancelled the SPL card?
>>
>
> Celtic bottled it ?

Walter Smith and Rangers behaved with class over this, it's a shame that
some supporters are so consumed with the OF, that they cannot take a step
back and drop the point scoring, just for once.

Voice Of Reason · Joined: 31 Dec 2007 Posts: 8

"dü the hüsker" wrote in message$036.58525@fe1.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
>
> "Voice Of Reason" wrote in message
> @corp.supernews.com...
>>
>> "dü the hüsker" wrote in message
>> $cJ3.68967@fe2.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
>>>
>>> "Mad Max" wrote in message
>>> @x69g2000hsx.googlegroups.com...
>>>> Following further deliberations and dialogue with the players, the
>>>> Club today requested permission to postpone the game against Hearts.
>>>> However, we have been advised that the game must go ahead as
>>>> scheduled.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.dundeeunitedfc.co.uk/index.asp?tm=2&nid=2782&cd=2008
>>>>
>>>> think that say what all know to be true.
>>>
>>> If Walter Smith thinks a game shouldn't go ahead, then it doesn't?
>>> Other clubs don't get treated as fairly? Hearts are bigger bampots than
>>> Rangers? The SPL have made an arse of the whole thing and should have
>>> been pro-active and automatically cancelled the SPL card?
>>>
>>
>> Celtic bottled it ?
>>
>> V.O.R.
>
> When the Celtic captain is a very close friend of the O'Donnell family,
> Scot McDonald played with him for a few years, along with many of the
> backroom staff remaining close friends with Phil then perhaps you're
> right. Maybe a game of football wasn't foremost in their minds. I think
> the whole card should have been scrapped. I'm sure it would have affected
> all the players in the SPL and gave them a lot to think about.

That must be one of the most sensible posts you have made, and i too agree
that the whole card should have been scrapped, shame on the SPL.
If one game was going to be postponed as a mark of respect then ALL games
should have been postponed.
No if's, no buts, just cancel all games. And it should have been done as
soon as the news of his death became available from the hospital on Saturday
tea time.

V.O.R.

Voice Of Reason · Joined: 31 Dec 2007 Posts: 8

"ZB" wrote in message @mid.individual.net...
>
> "Voice Of Reason" wrote in message
> @corp.supernews.com...
>>
>> "dü the hüsker" wrote in message
>> $cJ3.68967@fe2.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
>>>
>>> "Mad Max" wrote in message
>>> @x69g2000hsx.googlegroups.com...
>>>> Following further deliberations and dialogue with the players, the
>>>> Club today requested permission to postpone the game against Hearts.
>>>> However, we have been advised that the game must go ahead as
>>>> scheduled.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.dundeeunitedfc.co.uk/index.asp?tm=2&nid=2782&cd=2008
>>>>
>>>> think that say what all know to be true.
>>>
>>> If Walter Smith thinks a game shouldn't go ahead, then it doesn't?
>>> Other clubs don't get treated as fairly? Hearts are bigger bampots than
>>> Rangers? The SPL have made an arse of the whole thing and should have
>>> been pro-active and automatically cancelled the SPL card?
>>>
>>
>> Celtic bottled it ?
>
> Walter Smith and Rangers behaved with class over this, it's a shame that
> some supporters are so consumed with the OF, that they cannot take a step
> back and drop the point scoring, just for once.

Not point scoring, IMO truth.
Celtic waited till Monday to request the postponement, what was wrong with
asking for it on Saturday ?

V.O.R.

Blue · Joined: 31 Dec 2007 Posts: 5

On 1 Jan, 20:41, Jim Mason
wrote:
> In article ,
> dont.mail.me.at....@googlemail.com says...
>
> > TRUTH, be men about it and just admit it.
>
> I think we all know the truth and you don't like it when you are exposed to it
> by one of your own.
>
> Jim
> --
> Remove `spamtrapped` to reply off-list
>
> http://jim-mason.fotopic.net/

Well thats sorted that one out then, cant beat that comeback. Your
words of wisdom and intelectual views are astounding, I was left
stumped for words. Away and polish yer zimmer auld yin

Blue

ZB · Joined: 17 Aug 2007 Posts: 3451

"Blue" wrote in message @i29g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
> On 1 Jan, 20:41, Jim Mason
> wrote:
>> In article
>> ,
>> dont.mail.me.at....@googlemail.com says...
>>
>> > TRUTH, be men about it and just admit it.
>>
>> I think we all know the truth and you don't like it when you are exposed
>> to it
>> by one of your own.
>>
>> Jim
>> --
>> Remove `spamtrapped` to reply off-list
>>
>> http://jim-mason.fotopic.net/
>
> Well thats sorted that one out then, cant beat that comeback. Your
> words of wisdom and intelectual views are astounding, I was left
> stumped for words. Away and polish yer zimmer auld yin

Funny how Jim the Falkirk fan gets it without any problem. But Blue, VOR &
jim want to use the death of a footballer for their perverse point scoring.
It's times like this when people should pull together, instead you guys
paint a depressing picture of West of Scotland bigotry and intolerance.

liam67 · Joined: 17 Aug 2007 Posts: 39

"Blue" wrote
>
> I am only pointing out facts and
> wondering why celtic took 2 days to decide to postpone the game, and I
> think we all know its because the Gers would have stuffed celtic and
> they did all they could to prevent it happening by using a mans death
> to have the game cancelled and thats the truth.

No idea why you are getting hung up on the 2 days thing?? Would Celtic
have been less likely to get stuffed on Saturday night? since that's
what you are implying. Was it only Monday am that WGS realised McGeady
wasn't playing or that our defence has been poor?

Sounds to me that your only justification for your opinion that Celtic
knew they would get beat and have used Phil O'Donnell death to get the
game cancelled is that you are being a bitter and twisted sod. Now sod
off ya point scoring looney.....

liam67 · Joined: 17 Aug 2007 Posts: 39

Jim Mason wrote:
> Liam.Shaw.glas...@googlemail.com says...
> > "Blue" wrote
>
> > > I am only pointing out facts and
> > > wondering why celtic took 2 days to decide to postpone the game, and I
> > > think we all know its because the Gers would have stuffed celtic and
> > > they did all they could to prevent it happening by using a mans death
> > > to have the game cancelled and thats the truth.
>
> > No idea why you are getting hung up on the 2 days thing?? Would Celtic
> > have been less likely to get stuffed on Saturday night? since that's
> > what you are implying. Was it only Monday am that WGS realised McGeady
> > wasn't playing or that our defence has been poor?
>
> > Sounds to me that your only justification for your opinion that Celtic
> > knew they would get beat and have used Phil O'Donnell death to get the
> > game cancelled is that you are being a bitter and twisted sod. Now sod
> > off ya point scoring looney.....
>
> I admire his/hers Mystic Meg qualities as well as his/her remarkable insight.
> He/she must be a very rich person with those combined talents. And all that
> `truth` as well. A Messiah type all round.

He/She utterly believes their half baked rationalism. Truly
remarkable.

> In his excellent article...
>
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/scotland/7166136.stm
>
> ...Chic Young deals with facts (as in REAL facts) but something I would
> question is that in my experience some of the biggest bigots I have ever come
> across do not reside in the west of Scotland and have been nowhere near Ibrox
> and Celtic Park in their sad lives but appear on the scene and are very vocal
> at such times as this. Thankfully both clubs have long since distanced
> themselves from such morons. As have most decent posters in here.

It's a good article. I like the Gibbons one below also. If anyone is
asking any questions about what has been going on it should be why, if
Gibbons is right, the SPL rebuffed Celtic's initial request on the
Sunday to have the game postponed...?

http://sport.scotsman.com/football/Old-Firm-match--postponed.3631534.jp

liam · Joined: 17 Aug 2007 Posts: 229

"Jim Mason" wrote
> liam@mail.co.uk says...
>> "Voice Of Reason" wrote
>> >
>> > WHY Monday and not Saturday evening or even Sunday ?
>> > WS said the game should not be played on Sat I believe, so what
>> > happened
>> > to celtic making the same statement ? ? ?
>> > The only people that should hang their head in shame are CFC and the
>> > SPL
>> > and the saddo posters that claim Gers fans are point scoring over a
>> > mans
>> > death, get a grip, if anyone is trying to point score then it is the
>> > sad
>> > tic fans claiming things like that.
>>
>> Glen Gibbons in the Scotsman newspaper is suggesting that Celtic
>> requested
>> on the *Sunday* the game be postponed. The SPL initially rebuffed the
>> request. Any comment?
>>
>> http://sport.scotsman.com/football/Old-Firm-match--postponed.3631534.jp
>
> I doubt if that article will fit in with the route he is trying to take.
>
> Voice of reason? I hardly think so.

VoR is being presented with another view. He can either accept Celtic did
the right thing....or suggest that Gibbons is a liar...wonder what he will
choose?

Mad Max · Joined: 17 Aug 2007 Posts: 133

On Jan 1, 4:29 pm, "dü the hüsker" wrote:
> "Mad Max" wrote in message
>
> @x69g2000hsx.googlegroups.com...
>
> > Following further deliberations and dialogue with the players, the
> > Club today requested permission to postpone the game against Hearts.
> > However, we have been advised that the game must go ahead as
> > scheduled.
>
> >http://www.dundeeunitedfc.co.uk/index.asp?tm=2&nid=2782&cd=2008
>
> > think that say what all know to be true.
>
> If Walter Smith thinks a game shouldn't go ahead, then it doesn't? Other
> clubs don't get treated as fairly? Hearts are bigger bampots than Rangers?
> The SPL have made an arse of the whole thing and should have been pro-active
> and automatically cancelled the SPL card?

for once i will agree with you, all games should have been called off
there and then but they only called of those at motherwell had to play
or anything to do with the ground, but it took two days for celtic to
ask, and only did when they relised they had no team, now Dundee find
out that CFC are not playing, they hear about the grief card getting
played so they ask.

they ask and get told No, and they were the players that saw it
happen.

Mad Max · Joined: 17 Aug 2007 Posts: 133

On Jan 1, 6:27 pm, "ZB" wrote:

>
> Walter Smith and Rangers behaved with class over this, it's a shame that
> some supporters are so consumed with the OF, that they cannot take a step
> back and drop the point scoring, just for once.

Telling the truth is not point scoring.

yes Rangers football club did the right thing by accepting they game
was off, not much choice when shame fc are playing the grief card two
days too late or rather two days after walter said it.

they way celtic did it is what is wrong here not the game its self.

they could have made comment about it at the time as walter they didnt
and if they had a full team they wouldnt have asked for it to be
cancelled.

Mad Max · Joined: 17 Aug 2007 Posts: 133

On Jan 1, 9:07 pm, "ZB" wrote:

> Funny how Jim the Falkirk fan gets it without any problem. But Blue, VOR &
> jim want to use the death of a footballer for their perverse point scoring..
> It's times like this when people should pull together, instead you guys
> paint a depressing picture of West of Scotland bigotry and intolerance.

Shame fc used a mans death for their own aim. thats a fact deal with
it.

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