A wider view of bigotry and sectarianism in our game.

\\¯`·.¸biz¸.·´¯/ · Joined: 18 Jan 2008 Posts: 29

Some valid points raised about the ridiculousness of it all...

"Why should Rangers fans mocking Catholics be worse than SouthPark mocking
Scientologists?"

"Football matches have traditionally been a place to let off steam and
stadiums should be cauldrons of emotion - that means hate as well as love.
If you ban Sectarian or racist chants then why not the word cunt? Plenty of
people find that offensive. Or do you want football played in front of
obedient dummies? Kick censorship out of football."

also see posts by 'vivalatrav' and 'northbriton'.

http://commentisfree.guardian.co.uk/mike_small/2007/08/hymns_of_hatred_at_ibrox_park.html

or

http://snipurl.com/viewsonthis

biz

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sme · Joined: 17 Aug 2007 Posts: 1355

On Mon, 04 Feb 2008 23:05:35 GMT and in uk.sport.football.clubs.celtic,
\¯`·.¸biz¸.·´¯/ wrote....

> Some valid points raised about the ridiculousness of it all...
>
> "Why should Rangers fans mocking Catholics be worse than SouthPark
> mocking Scientologists?"

I think if it was only mocking it wouldn't be so frowned upon.

> "Football matches have traditionally been a place to let off steam and
> stadiums should be cauldrons of emotion - that means hate as well as
> love. If you ban Sectarian or racist chants then why not the word
> cunt? Plenty of people find that offensive. Or do you want football
> played in front of obedient dummies? Kick censorship out of football."

Where will it all stop? Will football eventually end up with chants of
"good show" and "bravo!". As the quote above says, football is as much
about hate as it is about love. I hate getting beat, i hate my teams rivals
winning. I don't necessarily hate rival fans, just when they get bragging
rights and abuse them. ;-P

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ZB · Joined: 17 Aug 2007 Posts: 3451

" \¯`·.¸biz¸.·´¯/" wrote in message @bt.com...
> Some valid points raised about the ridiculousness of it all...
>
> "Why should Rangers fans mocking Catholics be worse than SouthPark mocking
> Scientologists?"
>
> "Football matches have traditionally been a place to let off steam and
> stadiums should be cauldrons of emotion - that means hate as well as love.
> If you ban Sectarian or racist chants then why not the word cunt? Plenty
> of people find that offensive. Or do you want football played in front of
> obedient dummies? Kick censorship out of football."
>
> also see posts by 'vivalatrav' and 'northbriton'.
>
> http://commentisfree.guardian.co.uk/mike_small/2007/08/hymns_of_hatred_at_ibrox_park.html
>
> or
>
> http://snipurl.com/viewsonthis
>
> biz

What a load of bollocks! I'm all for rivalry, but to say that huns
discriminating against Catholics is any more acceptable than tims
discriminating against Protestants is ridiculous. There are still plenty of
places in Scptland where you will not be employed based on your religion
(which people assume based on your surname). That is taking rivalry into the
domain of bigotry and haterd which is completely unacceptable.

Great idea, let's allow racism and sectarian chants in football because
football is supposed to be emotional. That is one of the most ridiculous
comments I have ever heard.

Mad Max · Joined: 17 Aug 2007 Posts: 133

On Feb 5, 2:12 am, "ZB" wrote:
> " \¯`·.¸biz¸.·´¯/" wrote in message
>
> @bt.com...
>
>
>
> > Some valid points raised about the ridiculousness of it all...
>
> > "Why should Rangers fans mocking Catholics be worse than SouthPark mocking
> > Scientologists?"
>
> > "Football matches have traditionally been a place to let off steam and
> > stadiums should be cauldrons of emotion - that means hate as well as love.
> > If you ban Sectarian or racist chants then why not the word cunt? Plenty
> > of people find that offensive. Or do you want football played in front of
> > obedient dummies? Kick censorship out of football."
>
> > also see posts by 'vivalatrav' and 'northbriton'.
>
> >http://commentisfree.guardian.co.uk/mike_small/2007/08/hymns_of_hatre...
>
> > or
>
> >http://snipurl.com/viewsonthis
>
> > biz
>
> What a load of bollocks! I'm all for rivalry, but to say that Bears
> discriminating against Catholics is any more acceptable than Fenians/Taigs
> discriminating against Protestants is ridiculous. There are still plenty of
> places in Scptland where you will not be employed based on your religion like state funded Roman catholic schools
> (which people assume based on your surname). That is taking rivalry into the
> domain of bigotry and haterd which is completely unacceptable.
>
> Great idea, let's allow racism and sectarian chants in football because
> football is supposed to be emotional. That is one of the most ridiculous
> comments I have ever heard.Unless its people like me thats Anti-British and Anti-protestants, thats why i post
bigoted post like this..

Cant be arsed with known sectarian racist like you that gets offended
at Fenian and Taig but is happy to call a british white protestant
HUN. You are an Idiot.

Angof maybe you would like to have a word on this as Zebhoy has just
proved that Hun means Protestant and thinks Tim means Catholic or is
just another clown thinking that only Celtic supporters abuse
protestants?

dü the hüsker · Joined: 17 Aug 2007 Posts: 563

" \¯`·.¸biz¸.·´¯/" wrote in message @bt.com...
> Some valid points raised about the ridiculousness of it all...
>
> "Why should Rangers fans mocking Catholics be worse than SouthPark mocking
> Scientologists?"
>
> "Football matches have traditionally been a place to let off steam and
> stadiums should be cauldrons of emotion - that means hate as well as love.
> If you ban Sectarian or racist chants then why not the word cunt? Plenty
> of people find that offensive. Or do you want football played in front of
> obedient dummies? Kick censorship out of football."
>
> also see posts by 'vivalatrav' and 'northbriton'.
>
> http://commentisfree.guardian.co.uk/mike_small/2007/08/hymns_of_hatred_at_ibrox_park.html
>
> or
>
> http://snipurl.com/viewsonthis
>
> biz
>
>
> --
> www.bebo.com/bizenya79
> www.myspace.com/bizenya
> Death is hereditary.

The occasional decent post (northbriton) but most (vivalatrav, chronos etc)
of it is just bigots trying to justify their bile.

Sectarianism I hadn't realised that there was still such a huge problem down south. makes the FA seem archaic by comparison to our lot.

Celtic and Sectarianism... I was extremely disappointed to learn that, according to the STV News tonight, Celtic are to be investigated for sectarianism. Apparently one fan was arrested by the police for sectarian behaviour and STV suggest that others joined in singing. STV played

Sanity over Sectarianism Anyone had a look at these before ? Apologies if this has been posted or discussed before but I ain't been using the groups much

Motherwell game Its been postponed for now.Was hoping it would go ahead and be a celebration of Phils life but the family requested it not to be played which is totally and hopefully when the two clubs next meet something nice will be planned with the fami

The new year game Yes Phil O'Donnell, died very sad I feel sorry for his family But he chose to play football And football must go on Is this not the old firm taking the piss out of their fans once again? The old firm game was once played every New Year's day Where we coul